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  • isedkeem
    12-10 01:25 PM
    With all the porting nonsense going on eb2 will move backward and eb3 will inch forward slowly. We might end up with eb2 and eb3 in 2002. congrats to all the people who ported, the only thing you accomplished is you made sure eb2 does not progress (it does not mean you have have moved forward by porting, it just means that you have made sure you have prevented original eb2 guys from getting green card), the people who ported wont gain any benefit but they will make it worse for everyone, they have to file a second i140 which will take at least another 1 year to clear and after 1 year when the ported 140's clear the eb2 will go back to 2002. You have also accomplished another great feat, DOL is going to make it impossible to file eb2 in IT jobs so even genuine people are screwed. Before people start giving red dots and justifying there porting I have an message for you, your behavior is no different from the people who did labor substitution, the end result was DOL ended labor substitution and the result of all this porting is DOL has made it impossible to get eb2 even for genuine cases. Just because others are doing it does not mean you can do it, obviously it is wrong therefore dol removed labor substitution and now dol is making it impossible to get eb2 for IT jobs even for genuine cases. 90 % of people doing this porting are desi consulting employees, they wine and complain about desi consulting companies as blood suckers (justifiably) but they themselves are bloodsuckers on the EB2 community by doing this eb3 to eb2 porting.

    Another reason for the slow movement is people getting married.. a spouse potentially accounts for yet another visa number and this adds to the unpredictability of the system. It gets even worse with non-US born kids.





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  • mirage
    07-13 07:54 AM
    Please correct your spelling of Murthy. I thought some senator or Congressman Murphy wrote to DOS. If it was murthy I wouldn't have bothered to come on this thread. She is a big time crook. Shamelessly she's trying to take credit of everything that we are doing here under 1 banner called immigrationvoice she will take credit of Zoe Lofgren and everybody else. She has never ever mentioned immigrationvoice for anything in her so called updates.

    http://www.murthy.com/chertoff_murthy.html

    July 12, 2007

    ......





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  • franklin
    07-03 06:34 PM
    with out a reliable website, we can't communicate and do all the important things(productive) you are talking. maintaining a reliable website doesn't need much funds.

    Anti immigrants will not know our plans if we may this a paid website.
    Yes, there are other ways that in an emergency you can keep in touch with IV. Total waste of valuable money, for the couple of occasions it has happened





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  • sonaliak
    09-19 10:05 AM
    Legal Immigrants Voice is a good suggestions, place card was very heavy in future try to make place less heavy :)
    It is first time around 1000 people gathered for their rights, it was awesome view, and you are demanding your rights in front of number one democratic institution in the world. For movement I can feel what participants might have felt when Martin Luther King gave "I�ve dream" speech on the same ground long time back.

    It is not only mathematics of the number or support, It felt good for me, my wife and others, with the help of Immigration Voice, I was a part of movement which is democratic, legal, peaceful and required.



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  • logiclife
    12-12 10:26 AM
    We have asked an immigration lawyer this question. Someone even quoted all the sections of INA and CFR(code of federal regulations) to make the point -- that you can have regulation changed to file 485.

    The lawyer was of the opinion that you need change in INA to be able to file 485 when dates are not current. It cannot be done with administrative changes.





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  • amitps
    09-26 12:22 PM
    Ask her to write separately about us and mention IV! It appears the mistake was not intensional.

    Stay in touch with her. We will need her later!

    Yes, we are talking to her about this.



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  • noendinsight
    10-26 10:24 AM
    Eb3 India
    PD- Jan 2004





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  • kate123
    02-19 04:58 PM
    DITTO!
    I feel the same...

    You guys are really making me laugh by having this less than and longer than 5 years arguing. If you've been on this forum long enough, you'll know the chance of this bill passes will be next to nothing.



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  • cool_guy_onnet1
    02-20 03:29 PM
    Dude. I am *so* not Ron Gotcher. :)

    He was rushing and didn't give me any specifics for EB-3 India.

    Just don't exhaust this resource and keep it down low.


    Lets wait and watch- Go IV





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  • TexDBoy
    09-10 02:42 PM
    You can open real player ... then file -> open ..
    http://judiciary.edgeboss.net/real-live/judiciary/17223/56_judiciary-coj_2141_070212.smi



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  • prioritydate
    12-20 04:30 PM
    Your PD is Dec, 2004. Why you think you'll get RFE for not working during 2001?

    I am not sure about that. So, are you saying that they don't care what my status was before applying my GC?





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  • sunty
    11-11 09:37 AM
    vin13,

    This just beats me..Why was the conference call idea for such an important issue floated only in the Donor Forum. Fine, the Donors pay and they deserve to have some information. But if you need bigger participation from IV members, the conf. call idea should have been in the General Forum as well....

    Anyways, can this still be arranged ? I would love to be a part of that in any possible way. Please let me and all the other members know.



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  • bharol
    07-28 01:16 PM
    can the person who started the thread tell me how is this issue related to Green card backlog or any other immigration related issue?
    :mad:





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  • nfinity
    07-03 06:16 PM
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  • Jaime
    02-19 12:27 AM
    Guys, this looks good. It is NOT for illegal aliens. Paragraphs (c) and (d) state that the alien must be admissible as an immigrant (i.e. not have broken the law by being an illegal), read paragraph (d) here:

    "(d) Security and Law Enforcement Clearances- The alien, if over 15 years of age, shall submit fingerprints in accordance with procedures established by the Secretary of Homeland Security. Such fingerprints shall be submitted to relevant Federal agencies to be checked against existing databases for information relating to criminal, national security, or other law enforcement actions that would render the alien ineligible for adjustment of status under this section. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall provide a process for challenging the accuracy of matches that result in a finding of ineligibility for adjustment of status."

    Read the "or other law enforcement actions that would render the alien ineligible for adjustment of status under this section"....so, anyone who broke the law by entering the country illegally would NOT be eligible.

    So, stop sending those letters opposing this bill, and instead let's support it!!





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  • TeddyKoochu
    09-10 01:17 PM
    where is this 120k EB2I and C coming up from, those who haven't filed 485 yet? So you are expecting another july 2007 making all EB2 Current.

    Here is a brief calculation of EB2 Demand till date (Today's Date)
    The total demand till date is ~ 120K which is
    Demand up to Aug 2007 = 45K
    Sep 2007 to Dec 2008 = 16 * 2.5K Perm Month = 40K
    Jan 2009 to Oct 2010 = 22 * 1.5K per month = 33K
    New PD porting after Aug 2007 (Current Eb3 Inventory is 60K till Aug 2007) = 10K
    Total 45 + 40 + 33 + 10 = 128K. This may be inflated but it is atleast 120K.

    By giving these numbers I don’t mean to scare anybody but it’s better to have a tryst with true reality rather than be ignorant. It is better to have an understanding of the backlog rather than feeling bad VB after VB, nothing will change soon because the backlog is so huge.

    If you look at the numbers it is very unlikely that EB2 will literally become current any time soon, the end of the pre-adjudicated numbers is just a tipping point and when this happens anything could happen 1) Make dates current (I personally welcome that atleast everybody gets a chance to file for I485) 2) Keep accepting applications in a controlled manner so as to approve in quarter or year. 3) Grant spillover to EB3 ROW (EB3 ROW backlog is so huge like EB2 - I in the same range 100-120K that the spillover will disappear in no time, also note that EB3 ROW incremental demand is much higher than EB2 ROW). If you look at EB2 ROW for last year they were current for the whole year but approvals came from 2007. Its the agencies discretion really how they want to control and regulate the demand and honor the INA and the distribution rules. I believe that what may happen when EB2-I/C preadjudicated numbers get exhausted is Option # 2) Keep accepting applications in a controlled manner so as to approve in quarter or year because this is what happened for EB2 ROW; again this is my personal guess / assumption. Also those who have not been able to file for I485 cannot be kept in a endless denial with the preadjudicated numbers exhausted I think the chance will come for EB2 friends.

    The spillover is a happening of the present time when the economy is bad, the moment this changes everything will disappear and there will be no difference between EB2 and EB3 if you belong to a retrogressed country we will all be at 3K Per annum and EB5 contribution if any will be consumed by PD porting which will increase manifold as EB3-I folks waiting for 10 years is simply unacceptable, currently there a 60K folks here just till 2007. I strongly favor porting waiting for 10 years is unacceptable. Also being without EAD / AP is very hard, great that we have a IV campaign initiated for this the efforts in this direction are laudable. Actually as Pappu, Admin2 and others have been saying EB3-EB2 even though may be relevant now is actually meaningless this is relevant only in this temporary phase of time fighting on these lines will not help to attain any objective rather it will kill chances of EB3 friends with later PD to port. The biggest issue is the per country limits which equate talent pools like India and China and give them the same cap as countries which have 1/1000th population, if they cannot be eliminated atleast should be proportionate to population for larger countries and be at 7% for the smaller ones. PS - I have nothing personal against ROW friends.



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  • virald
    07-18 09:49 AM
    What is meant by "Rejected" here?

    -FedEx not accepted on July 2nd
    -They took the packet and in 2-3 days they opened it and returned back some after inputting in their database
    -Packet is still with them but they generated a rejection notice that was sent to lawyer/candidate
    -Rejection email was sent to lawyer/candidate
    OR
    -USCIS's July 2nd bulletin just said all applications received would be returned/rejected and Greg's thought is that the whole pile must be kept somewhere with the action planned "to be rejected" and nobody is taking action on it and USCIS has to be made aware about that or in their yesterday's UPDATE they forgot to touch about this. ( To me this is internal processing matter of USCIS)

    Well to be honest with you, I was 1 million % convinced that we all should be OK because yesterday's press release very clearly mentions " All properly filed cases would be accepted" until I stumbled on Greg's blog. Now I am confused as well.

    I contacted my attorney but so far no reply. Will update all of you.

    I don't think so that we have to refile as it does not make sense. Plus even those who are rejected would have proof of filing )FedEx and rejection notice and through Motion to reopen case can be resurrected. Pls keep everybody updated as and when your attorney advises you.
    Thanks

    Rejection means -- packets opened, and, returned as reject because dates not current.
    I am also convinced that, if one has not gotten the package back, the person should be okay. But, just want to get the confirmation that we will be okay proactively rather than waiting.
    I'll post as soon as I find out from my lawyer.





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  • HV000
    02-14 03:22 PM
    Everybody stands in one single queue......one line not five lines......one line my friend, irrespective of your nationality. so if you wait 2 years, or 2 hours..I wait the same. Unlike NOW, where some people wait 5-8 years and others 1-2 years.

    I was talking about ONE line. How can you say ROW folks have an equal chance when majority are Indians, Chinese, Filipinos, and Mexicans? ROW will NOT be able to compete with MAJORITY (Indians/Chinese/Filipinos/Mexicans) put together. Keep in mind ONLY 140,000 can clear the checkout per year.

    This is the exact reason why USCIS has a country quota system ensuring ROW folks do not have to compete with OVERSUBSCRIBED countries.

    Your statement - "Unlike NOW, where some people wait 5-8 years and others 1-2 years" is very simple to explain. People wait longer because they usually belong to OVERSUBSCRIBED countries.
    Few ways to alleviate this situation is -
    1. Increase the overall quota beyond 140,000
    2. Increase the quota of oversubscribed countries slightly based on demand
    3. Recapture unused numbers from previous years

    What WILL NOT happen? - Removal of per country quota for EB Visas!!





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  • bigboy007
    06-11 04:34 PM
    Why are Harkin and Sanders supporting this bill. They are both children of immigrants. They need to understand the struggle their parents went through.
    There were many instances where IV tried to reach out to them, They are doing this not because they are ignorant. They are aware of the outcomes but their vision is narrowed.





    americandesi
    12-24 01:46 PM
    Another link was provided in this link where a person listed an employer on his g-325a but he was on bench and never got paid. USCIS was trying to deny his 485 due to fraud. Fraud overrules 24k any time.

    Therefore; uscis uses many different avenues to get at other aspects; especially to get you to lie, cover up, mislead in things you don't need to but inadvertently do because you think it is problematic when it really wasn't.



    You're right. Here's an example on how "Out of Status" can come back and haunt you for fraud

    http://murthyforum.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1024039761&f=9324055071&m=2331096351





    spicy_guy
    07-12 05:46 PM
    Does anyone have the list of latest set documents required to file for 485.... can you plzzzz email/post it here... thanks



    can it be done without the help of an attorney...????

    Its YOUR application to USCIS. You don't need an attorney.
    Go to USCIS and search for docs required.



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