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  • ganguteli
    02-03 03:04 PM
    Start from home first. Get the support of your wife to come with you to DC.
    Then talk to your collegues in your company and get them to come with you. Before you strat creating divisions in IV and start a flame war with ROW, try to do those things first. That should tell you how difficult it is to get a 2 line bill.





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  • somegchuh
    03-15 08:51 PM
    I have been waiting for my GC on purpose. I really wanted it to take 6 years.
    I really wanted to get my Labor to rot in PBEC and then I intentionally wanted to get stuck in Namecheck.


    On a serious note, do you have any idea about how this systems works? Do you have any idea what BEC's were or what namecheck is.

    We will talk about "what the hell have you have been doing for so long" in 4 years when you are moaning about how retrogression has affected you for the last 5 years.


    C'mon guys, what the hell have you been doing for so long?

    I mean look at the archived Visa Bulletins, you observe the following:

    1. EB2 was current for India ALL THROUGH 2003
    2. EB2 was current for India ALL THROUGH 2004
    3. EB2 was current for India till August 2005
    4. After the retrogression in 2005, EB2 India moved up quickly through 2003-2004 to April 2004 by the beginning of 2007

    5. Even after the summer 2007 fiasco (EB2 Current fro July, August 2007), the priority date for EB2 India moved to April 2004 and stayed there for 3 months

    What more do you wish for?
    I don't understand how there any can be anyone from 2004-2005 India still left in the EB2 category.

    This is pathetic. What the hell have you been waiting for?





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  • amsgc
    02-04 02:12 AM
    See response below.

    Folks,

    I am not a naysayer, I think the IV core team has done a great job of giving a voice to us.

    But, there are a few questions that I am not convinced myself:

    1. why remove per country quota just for EB, why not family based immigration as well?

    => Unlike family based immigration, Employment based immigration is based on the expressed need of US businesses for skilled labor. The position filled by EB based immigrants are first advertised in the local market, and if a US Citizen or LPR is not found with the requisite skills, only then is that job offered to a foreigner with the requisite skills. This means that the foreigner is needed by the US business to perform services on a permanent basis. In essence, the US gets a well trained and experienced foreign worker who is able to contribute to the economy on the day he gets his Green Card. It is very important to note that this job offer is made solely on the skills, education and experience of the foreigner, and the need expressed by a business. Also note that these individuals constitute only 14% of total immigration.

    On the other hand, there is absolutely no information on how an individual who comes in through family based immigration will be able to find a job, and start contributing to the economy. I am not saying that these individuals are incompetent, only that there is no data on how they will fit in. If you look around you, you will find that most people who enter the US through family based immigration lack language skills, are much older, and find it difficult to start over and assimilate in a new country. Many end up doing odd jobs which can be really frustrating for them. Since there is really no business need for these individuals in this country, and because they are whopping 86% of all immigration, a cap on family based immigration does make sense.

    You also need to understand the other important difference – most EB folks have already assimilated into this culture – they have been here for several years, worked a couple of jobs and in many cases attended US graduate schools.



    2. what will happen after removing per country limits, what kind of numbers are we looking at? how many new PRs? What is the impact on the country,economic, social, cultural, I do care about the USA.

    => The result of removing per country limits will be that every individual will be given an equal opportunity to immigrate to the US based on their skills, education, and the specific need expressed by a US business. It will be a system where everybody gets in one line - first in, first out. Some will say that the current system is fair because every "country" gets a fair chance. But that is just and attempt to mislead. The "country" does not file a petition to immigrate; it is a skilled individual who files a petition to immigrate based on his skills, education and his requirement in the US.

    Regarding numbers - I will give you a simple example. My GC process was started 3 years ago. My co-worker, who is from a non-retrogressed country, started his application last year. We both applied in the same category, and work in similar positions. We also have similar skills - US MS in CS. Because of the country caps, my application is still pending, whereas he already got his GC. If the country caps were removed, my wait time would have reduced by a year, his wait time would have increased by a year - we both would get the GC after waiting approximately the same amount of time. It would have been a first in, first out system. But it is not so, and it needs to be fixed.

    Like you, we all care about the USA. I assure you that it will have only a positive social and cultural impact on the US. Why? Because removal of country caps would lead to a system that is based solely on merit and hard work. Isn't that what this country is about?

    Regarding diversity – the individuals from retrogressed countries are already here, assimilating into the American fabric. Whether you give them the GC now or ten years from now, they will still be here - it will not change the ethnic character of this country.

    3. By asking legislators to remove these per country quota limits, isn't this a paradigm shift in thinking?

    => This is not a paradigm shift. If you open your eyes and ears you will find hundreds of organizations set up across the US to educate and influence lawmakers about policies that should be put in place to better serve this country.

    When I, a guy impacted by this EB backlog am not convinced, how the heck are we going to make a case to some congressman/woman?

    => Once you begin to feel the pain, you will understand. Perhaps you are new to the system, and are hoping that it will get better. It will not be long before you will suddenly find that a good number of years have gone by just waiting.

    We should definitely move away from this snobbish view that EB folks are better than others, or that the USA needs the EB folks more than EB folks need the USA.

    => I am not sure where you get that EB folks are snobbish. It is not our issue - so whatever FB folks decide, it is up to them. Also, nobody said USA needs more EB folks, US businesses need the EB folks for whom a petition to immigrate has been filed and approved. Get the difference?


    That said, I do believe that we have a humanitarian case for folks like us who are already in the queue. Educating congress about the path taken by the average EB immigrant would help.
    => You just contradicted yourself. A few sentences ago you seemed to imply that you really did not understand what could be gained by removing the country caps.


    At the end of the day human life is human life even it is it Indian.
    => Really don't know what you are trying to say here. Anyway, if you feel the need to respond to this message, please do so after updating your profile.





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  • ajay
    01-18 11:27 AM
    I definitely agree and I had similar experience first hand. I realized this when I went to renew my DL ..I had 2 consecutive EAD's in hand ..one expiring on 5th and the other starting from the 6th ..I asked the DL office to renew my license (I went there 1 week early) but they refused ..they wanted me to come on the next day and drive to the office on expired license ..no matter what I said ..they said sorry (not that courteous) ..I said "do I take a holiday just to renew on 6th" ..they said we don't care ..I said I have to drive on expired license and what if cop catches me ..they said "not our problem" ..talk to immigration people ..I said do you know how broken that is ....same attitude from my manager ..his reply ..well you guys decided to come to US..
    soo I guess same thing will happen if u have immovable assets ..they will say ..well you shd have realized this before u bought something on a temporary status ..or in few words they will say "we don't care ..not our problem" !!!
    Are there such people around? Sorry to hear your experience. And we don't have anything to defend ourselves here!!!



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  • chanduv23
    11-14 10:13 AM
    Totally agree, very nicely put. They will hear - listen if we present ideas that are pertinent to the existing situation. Nothing more pertinent than the housing mess. No one cares about old jaded ideas like "high talent" etc.

    Can people in California approach Zoe Lofergens office with the idea?

    On my part I will start sending letters and emails to the law makers.

    Some one in the core has to take the lead and give some direction to this effort......

    Do not regret if six months from now the housing crisis has cooled a little, no one will listen to us then. We would have wasted another chance. Do not take it for granted that now Obama is in office, he will do smoething about our problems.

    Why do u limit urself to just sending letters. Whhy can't you approach Zoe's office, why can't you take the lead?





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  • frostrated
    06-11 03:55 PM
    Done. Sent to senators in Texas. Also sent to house members just so that they are aware.

    Sent to all friends : Citizens, GC holders and those in the same boat as us. Even sent to native born Americans to help us to help their country.



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  • nitlsu
    04-04 11:16 AM
    I don't think this bill would be of any consequence to the goal of IV unless they can maybe attach some GC-relief provisions to it.

    In reality this bill will never ever make it to the full Senate floor. Corporate America will ensure that it dies the same kind of death as all the immigration related bills from last year.





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  • kumarc123
    07-18 01:51 PM
    EB2 dates may be unavailable/ dont move. But it is just for a very short span of time. And after that EB2 dates start moving quickly again. I presume by 2009 october, the EB2 India PD will close to 2008. Any retrogression, if there is, in EB2 will be very mild from now on because of the spillovers.

    Regarding EB3: Every year there had been about 100k approvals in EB3 category, out of around 160K(even though there are 140k visas, there have been approving more because they are using unused family visa numbers) approvals in Employment Based Category. This is because of vertical fall outs of visa numbers. Now they have changed the scenario to horizontal fall outs (spreading across at the same category level( ex. EB2) irrespective of country of chargeability.). So this time it would be around 100K approvals in EB2 category.

    Let us make as much noice as we could because of EB3 retrogression. That doesnt effect EB2 movement. But may make it possible visa numbers increase for EB category by legislation. So we have to support this agitation made by our EB3 friends.


    I could seee all the EB3 folks with PD older than 2006 and EB2 folks with PD older than 2008 will be cleared off in the next two years. I am sure there wont be not more than 1 or 2 years delay between EB2 and EB3 categories in near future.And there are lot of things going to happen for employment based immigratin in the next two years.


    This EB2 movement of 2 and half years is just a first step by DOS.

    Vldrao my friend I agree with you on that statement, their might be a small change in dates,it could be stagnant for a mild time. But eventually the dates will move fast, as USCIS wants to avoid any type of wastage of visa numbers and reduce the backlog.

    It doest not make sense, that in order to clear the backlog USCIS would need to further retrogress EB2 dates in the future. It is like saying 'take one step forward and then take one step back, end results is you stand at the same place"

    I Give you a green dot for it
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  • arnab221
    09-10 02:19 PM
    Yes this one is working for me...but iam also not sure its the right one or not.

    This guy is speaking on some rivers , in vermont





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  • chmur
    09-10 02:37 PM
    As of 05/10 's inventory report - there were ~200,000 GC application pending across ALL categories.

    I expect they would have reduced this backlog by 40,000 in the last 6 months . Will be verified by the next inventory report due , hopefully next month.

    If they reduce the backlog by 40,000 "NET" per year , backlog should be over in next 5 years.

    If they open the flood gates and let more applications to come in then this NET reduction is not possible.



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  • akhilmahajan
    09-11 10:06 AM
    09/11/2008: Visa Recapture and Nursing Relief Bills Pushed Off to a Later Date by the House Judiciary Committee Yesterday

    To a great disappointment to the business and higher learning institution communities, the House Judiciary was not able to debate these bills yesterday for a procedural matter and pushed off to a later date for its action. Please stay tuned to this website for the follow-ups.





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  • xyzgc
    01-17 11:58 PM
    I agree with what xyzgc says ..though I guess the last sentence should be changed to "how can you buy long term Immovable assets without getting the permanent residency ?? :)"

    Thanks, you are the only one who agrees. Its ok. The rest are fools (in their opinion, I'm stupid, its ok).



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  • sledge_hammer
    10-21 10:28 AM
    John McCain does NOT know how to use a computer. That webpage has been designed, scripted and QA'd to specifically get that reaction from you.
    You are trying to steer the argument away from the real issue at hand. Who cares if McCain cannot use a computer/code Java/query an RDBMS!!! That's not what he is expected to do being the President. He needs to make policies and make decisions about good vs bad policies. Yes, there are people that will take his message and put it on the website for him. What's worng with that?

    Do you really believe what that website says? Seriously? You don't think that's a little to targeted towards pulling our heartstrings? With no solid action plan to back it up? Just like a hooker ad on the freeway?
    His action plan has been clearly stated on the website. What more plan to you expect out of him? What has Obama planned for you and me?????

    Just like a hooker ad on the freeway?
    A hooker ad on a freeway? That's the best analogy you can come up with? I didn't know hookers these days made promises to give you a green card in addition to turning tricks. You must be picking them up at the wrong freeway?!?!





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  • InTheMoment
    07-13 11:39 PM
    Thanks for the latest info. Would be interested to know about this change...

    I read somewhere that now all the applications - 485/EAD/AP, for one particular applicant, are adjudicated by the same officer. This is a new process change to improve efficiency. I think the article I read indicated that it was already working that way at TSC.

    Unfortunately, i don't have the link, but I will post it if i come across it.



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  • logiclife
    12-29 01:39 AM
    Whatever you guys are doing ... its working.

    We are seeing higher than usual new registrations on this website in the past week.

    Thank you all for posting about Immigration Voice everywhere else.





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  • ItIsNotFunny
    10-16 11:52 AM
    yesterday some one left a red saying "go and sleep in your bedroom or something like that" :D,
    (which I find hilarious..because I don't exactly sleep on my couch :D:D)
    then some left a green saying "nullifying red".

    folks, I didn't leave a red for anyone (who cares abt them anyways)...don't assume immediately that I reacted.
    giving either reds or greens will not impact anyone's gc process..or change their PDs!
    Like itsnotfunny says, if you agree/disagree say it so. gave itsnotfunny a green to nullify the red.

    let me reiterate though, that I am completely opposed to flower campaign because once bitten, twice shy.
    USCIS has lot of autonomy and there is every likely of a repeat i.e july 07 part 2 as a reaction to gandhigiri part 2
    instead focus on other avenues, there is an excellent thread on FOIA in addition to the other avenues

    Hey,

    I mentioned very clearly that someone who didn't want to come in front did this. So definitely its not you as you wanted to express your opinion and discuss in public. I always appreciate other's suggestions as it will eventually bring us to right or better decision. I only hate people who don't want to do anything and curse people who want to do something.



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  • kumar1
    12-11 11:15 AM
    Kavita - I absolutely disagree with you. All of us (people on L-1, F-1, J-1, H1, B1, K1 and their derivatives....) went to US consulate to request for VISA. US consulate never came to your door with a VISA. Yes, it is your privilege to file GC but it is not your right. You can shower yourself with tags like "highly skilled" and what not but truth is, if we are so highly skilled then why are we having so many issues with Green Card? Why no one in this country is listening to us? They listened to bank's issues and came up with 750 Billion dollars in 2 flipping weeks. They have almost granted 15 Billion to auto industry. Meanwhile, we, self proclaimed highly skilled are fighting to have driver's license in DMV offices. And above all, when someone on H1 and L1 gets laid off, what is the problem in packing up the bag and going back to home country? It is us...you and me, who love to live in this country, we fight tooth and nail to live here, somehow, anyhow, at any cost!

    The way I look at it, we are here because this country provides us a very good quality of life and we see bright future for our family. After 5-10 years, we get so used to America that it hurts to even think that we are still on a temporary VISA.

    Please attack my thought, do not attack me or my self esteem!

    I absolutely agree with you. I can't imagine how a person of Indian or Chinese origin can blame themselves of this retrogression. To me, it is a reflection of poor self esteem.
    The bottomline is that we are here because we are needed here. We have the privilege to apply for green card in return for the work we do. Country quota does not make sense in employment based immigration. It is an unfair practice which has to stop someday.





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  • gc_wow
    02-12 03:52 PM
    No one cares about our plight.We are like new Jews in America.No matter what for no reason every one hates us for what we are.





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  • vin13
    02-22 06:44 PM
    I am keeping track of the air miles donors and those requesting tickets. I may not get the time to acknowledge receiving the messages.

    I will reach out to individuals as i get to coordinate the available miles with those who are in need.

    Thanks





    permfiling
    11-09 03:31 PM
    Nope, not yet.
    Congratulations,!! Is your card really green or pollution has some effect on it? ;)

    How long did it take to get CPO email and card since 485 approval notice?


    Thanks





    pappu
    05-07 12:27 AM
    cool down...I did pay for that effort, I am not a member of donor forum though..

    If you have paid and do not have access then send us an email to info at immigrationvoice.org with your payment details, name, email used to contribute and IV ID.

    We have added everyone that contributed. Sometimes there is a delay of a couple of days.



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