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  • rockstart
    08-03 01:50 PM
    Knowing about future, or predicting what is to come, would help if we ought to do something in preparation; an advance action, such as nailing our windows shut if we are predicting a storm. That is not the case here. Therefore, sure shot 'prediction' is just to wait and see. It is only a few days away. If new cutoff date encompasses your PD, pray and check your email every day (or every hour or even minute), and hope for the best.

    I agree with you. Next week we will see the bulletin and then some people will be elated if their predictions come right and some will be disapointed. Again in 20 days we will start a new thread for Oct bulletin and FY 2010. I guess it is just that we are keeping alive our hopes.





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  • JunRN
    09-22 06:59 PM
    called last week and today....

    I hope and pray that Smith and King will not attend.





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  • windingroad
    02-24 06:15 PM
    I just made a contribution ...

    IV team has done a great job in two months ... keep it going.





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  • dummgelauft
    06-30 10:42 AM
    To put out a fire and to prevent it from happening again you need two things:

    (1) Take the fuel away
    (2) Take the Oxygen away
    (3) Make sure you don't have any sparks flying around.

    Immigration reform, whether for legals or illegals, needs massive support from the American people. Most of the people are in no mood to support a "reform" unless the president can stem the flow at the border.
    To able to get any kind of immigration relief legislaton through, the president needs to work hard and quick at sealing the border shut. Time and again "the other side" has laid this as a pre-requisite to any immigration related dialogue.
    I don't know why this is so hard to do. The border is there for a reason and it is the Federal government's responsibility to maintian its integrity, whatever it takes, National Guard, drones, US Army..whatever.
    That being said, don't read too much into this "Thursday speech by the president". It is lip service, or as go_guy pointed out...political posturing.

    P.S: Admin, deleting my posts will NOT get you your green card sooner.



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  • chanduv23
    10-13 09:59 AM
    I was glad I made it even if I was late. The local chapter is no more nebulous entity in my mind. Good to see you all.

    PS: My only gripe: laborchic turned out to far from a "chic". What a letdown ;-)

    Well - now I understand why you were there :)





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  • alterego
    10-04 12:10 PM
    I agree that the current political climate is so screwed up that, they are not doing anything except in a reactionary way. Part of it is a lack of visionary leadership, "W" has hardly been able to unite the country behind much legislation. The Congressmen have been too entrenched in political gamesmanship and more interested in political survival than the broader national interest. Nothing illustrated this more than the recent bailout legislation. Noone liked it but clearly there was no other option either. The lack of conviction in the way congress approached it however means, they spent 840 billion (instead of 700) and even that seems too little too late. And it might even end up being the first of many more bailouts. Sometimes you indeed can be too late to help out and drag it out more than necessary. Much is all about perception and confidence. Finally, vocal special interests who have selfishness and ideology at heart have no doubt contributed to this toxic mess, and elected officials seem less and less able to divorce themselves of their undue influence (it was not always that way in this country).
    The one saving grace is that an election is in the offing. Honestly it will be a breath of fresh air, no matter who is elected. Someone can then project some leadership and actually get something done. This last 4 yr term has been especially useless in terms of getting anything at all done, not just on the immigration front but any front at all.



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  • Eternal_Hope
    12-11 11:02 PM
    I agreee with the spirit of things - that multiple ways of expressing anguish, disgust, frustration is required.

    While we have to keep generating funds and doing the lobbying, the frustration of the members must be "used".

    Here is my suggestion (and this was mentioned by someone earlier also) - let's send the criss-crossed and blackened photocopies of our degrees, patents, publications etc. to the congress and other authorities as a symbol of how useless these are becoming as we wait for GCs. We can coordinate the event such that everyone's reaches at around the same time.

    Again, all I am saying is that we can do multiple things to gain attention and make our point, and these can happen simultaneously with the other activities ongoing at the State chapter level.





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  • belmontboy
    03-19 05:49 PM
    I-94 form does not have any such thing.. But DS-156 and 157 might have.. so if the guy goes and does not apply for a visa he shud be fine i think...

    The immigration and customs from that airline gives you has.



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  • 24fps
    02-15 11:40 PM
    first of all with that Matloff paper u proved a point that i was trying to make and that is the fraud cases are way more than 20%

    and secondly Matloff is only one person in the anti immi committee (if u can call it that) that opinion is his and doesn't necessarily dictate the whole bandwagon of anti-immis , the brand equity hit takes place at the grass-root level

    check out that punk aka itgrunt

    these turds brand every indian immigrant as being fraudulent beacuse of the fraud that takes place , all these organizations , numberusa , washtech etc thrive only because of the large number of grass-root supporters who call in the senators and tip them over

    Matloff making the "fraud issue is irrelevant" statement is hypocritical , but he's always been that way. it doesnt fit in *his* larger scheme of things which tend to get balanced out between the pro and anti immigrants in the *larger* aspect of things

    but the "brand equity" being tarnished is so tangible and digestible at the grassroot level to makes it a public issue

    yes the larger context of the racist/xenophobic issues will always be there as i earlier said
    but by just saying fraud is irrelevant is stupid

    you need to use your own common sense and think for yourself instead of just quoting/cut pasting random people all the time .





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  • kumarc123
    06-12 01:54 PM
    kumarc123 I merged your thread + created a redirect with this one because of duplicate post and same discussion on your post in 2 places.

    Will respond to your other post soon. Pls look at us as people like you rather than venting against us for everything.

    Papuu

    I apologize if I said something wrong,but I strong believe I didn't. We need the OLD IV to do something big and practical, that's the only way, you will attract new members. I respect, all you have done, but I guess its time for you and other core members to plan something real and in open. We don't want to be informed about close door talks, we want action.



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  • pappu
    10-05 02:02 PM
    To add to this point. This is AFTER the implosion of CIR on the Senate floor. CIR was supposed to be the reason issues around legal highly skilled immigration were deferred.
    So, after deferral, implosion of CIR, we yet get a line clumping these two. It is almost like a nicotine addict trying to break the habit. Media can be so close minded.

    All I can say is what IV has done to try to separate these two issues, is nothing short of herculean. Now atleast we are seeing some semblance of a separation. I think the Rally in DC was a highly significant moment in this regard. I am also pleasantly surprised to see as much attention given to the immigrant visa issue (ie green cards) as was to the rest of it. Previously highly skilled immigration was thought to be tantamount to H1b visas. The issue of permanent green cards was a footnote.

    We have tried very hard to separate ourselves and not be a hostage of other issues. Now there is more awareness on the greencard issue being separate from H1B. There is also more awareness that Immigration problem is not just about Illegals. There are legal immigrants too in this country suffering.

    Pls post letters to the editor. Last week we are able to get CNN correct their incorrect reporting of the rally due to effort from everyone on the forum.





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  • MerciesOfInjustices
    11-08 08:53 AM
    A quick analysis of election results and its relevance to us:

    As of 11:45 PM PST, House has gone to Democrats in a landslide; the Senate is on its way depending on outcome in Montana and Virginia. If Democrats win MT and VA (Jon Tester in MT, Jim Webb in VA), the Democrats would control the Senate too...

    Thirdly, Jon Kyl almost lost his Senate seat in Arizona. If it’s any indication that anti-immigration noises are no career-savers, this may be it.

    I agree with everything as you said. Darn, but certain Congressmen from Wisconsin and Colorado made it back - of course, without the clout.

    As Fareed Zakaria pointed in a recent article, (I cannot find the link, somehow) Immigration reform is the only issue that George Bush, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Rudy Giluiani and Nancy Pelosi agree on! How many such issues are there? I cannot really think of one!

    But, would like to point out something about Senator Kyl, who may have voted against CIR finally. But, he has not been against legal immigration. In fact, he had co-authored the Cornyn-Kyl version, that was a variant of the final compromise version being floated in the House. As far as I know, he opposes only certain aspects - but does not have an anti-immigrant stance, as such. He is, of course, better known for his work in healthcare legislation, where he has been very close to what most doctors have supported in terms of Tort Reform, to reign in rising Helathcare costs. In other words, he is more balanced - that may have been the saving grace. But, your analysis is also correct - voting against CIR did not bring him a landslide!



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  • Jaime
    09-27 07:15 PM
    Can we have an action item for this? If core agrees and shows us a green signal, we can hit it immediately. I'm sure we can manage a lot of volunteers on this one :)

    Can we at least send in copies of our degrees? Congress is considerig immigratio-related bills, are we gona sit there and let this opportunity pass? WE'VE ALREADY WAITED LONG ENOUGH GUYS!!!!





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  • sayantan76
    09-22 09:54 AM
    First it wasn't 1000, we had over 2000 people registered and many joined after or did not register. So please don't say 1000, it is extremely painful for everyone who attended to be considered as "not counted".

    1. Politically having a rally in D.C makes it more visible for all the law makers there. Laws/amendments and all the political activity happens there. Rallies else where would make it to one or two news cycle but won't be remembered after wards.

    2. Meeting lawmakers, staff from various constituents wrapped around an event like a rally helps a lot in getting the message across. It raises a lot of awareness.

    3. I would have agreed with you that numbers like 100,000 matters, but after being there and seeing the amazing capabilities of IV to organize meetings and having members meet over 100+ meetings with law makers, staff, talking to to them, sharing personal stories, advertisement and media campaigns around D.C has convinced me that it has and will make a difference! Personally for me, it was an eye opener on how the system works and I totally understood exactly why IV leaders set it up this way just by being around and them for a few days!
    First it wasn't 1000, we had over 2000 people registered and many joined after or did not register. So please don't say 1000, it is extremely painful for everyone who attended to be considered as "not counted".

    Agreed - but as far as the larger public is concerned......if washington post, a local dc mainstream newspaper, says it was 1,000 - the number in public mind is 1,000 (though 10,000 might have participated.....and when lawmakers set their priorities - all they are concerned about is ........


    ok - 1,000 folks (none of them voters) are asking me for a comprehensive employment based GC reform......which is a pain in the .......!!

    2,000 excited parents (85% of them registered voters) are asking for a new ice skating rink at a local school or residents of a neighborhood (again 65% voters, accounting for immigrants among residents) want a new station on commuter rail line or a new bus route or whatever......all of them easy to achieve.......

    and the lawmaker wonders over a cup of decaf latte - what should i focus on......??? to him/ her - the choice is obvious.....and if it is not obvious to us........we should take a reality check.....

    It would be a different thing - if 100,000 people do a silent lunch time gathering within the campuses of a revered american company like Cisco or Msoft.......with organizational blessings......people would sit up and listen.....

    Personally, I did not attend the DC event because I was travelling on business and to me my perceived benefit (maybe wrong) of rally was not worth postponing an important business trip.......on the other hand if one day it so transpires that this rally was the historic starting point of major immigration reforms triggered by a group of pioneering individuals - i would have no choice but to eat my words and hang my head in shame that i did not attend.............



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  • Berkeleybee
    04-26 11:45 AM
    BTW, I want to use this opportunity to thank IV members virtual55, jkays94, and cpolisetti for setting this whole ball in motion.

    It was their post on the forum (see http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=453) pointing out Mitra Kalita's Q&A on the Wash Post site that set this whole ball rolling.

    It is just one example of how every member can do his or her part to help us.

    Keep the spirit up!

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  • vivekm1309
    03-17 05:34 PM
    Bernanke's predecessor Alan Greenspan has written a book (check it on Amazon) where he makes a case for increased high-skilled immigration. He makes a forceful case that its good for the greater economy (and not just limited to housing sector). And yet, we don't see any action on the Capitol (do we?!).

    If Bernanke gives a media statement about the benefits of increased high-skilled immigration to media, it will create a few articles, a few heated discussions. It will peter out after that ( like Bill Gates testimonies to US Congress). Ultimately its the guys sitting in the Capitol and WH who control what becomes the law. And they aren't going to decide on immigration based on what Bernanke states in a brainstorming session.

    Here's the complex process - Someone has to write a bill, work on getting sponsors and co-sponsors, network with other Congressmen to support the bill. Get it through the bureacracy of the Sub-committee on Immigration in the Senate, get a filibuster proof majority of 60 senators to get it passed. Same has to be done in the House. Get it out of House immigration sub-committee. Get a majority vote in the House. In doing all this they shouldn't create a reason for Pres. Bush to veto it. In case he does veto it (for any reason) it will go back to Congress and 2/3rd majority to override the veto.

    If it was so easy to get a bill passed [by getting Mr. Bernanke to support it] lobbying business would've been long dead. Companies wouldn't be spending millions of dollars every year to safeguard their interests.

    Point is - getting Bernanke/media support may create a traction for our issue and get it some coverage. I'm not saying the effort is completely useless. It has it's place. But it will not fix the issue by itself. We still need to meet the lawmakers and convince them, we still need to send those letters, make those phone calls, send those faxes and so on. Getting Bernanke/media support will never be an alternative to IV efforts. They will, at best, complement it.


    Patton Boggs is a lobbyist hired by IV, Can he help in this situation ? It may be the case he already may be working to get something thru ..





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  • s416504
    02-12 12:24 PM
    You said Labor do says BS+5 year Exp. is OK.
    If nothing comes up...Check if your original employer files New I140 to consider you in EB3 instead of EB2 using same labor.


    digging through my old documents now.

    I was mistaken reading the labor cert application. It did say "we accept BS + 5 years progressive experience".

    I am 3 year Eng diploma + 1 year Eng post Diploma + 10 year exp in India + 5year Exp in US before filing Labor Cert .

    I do have a copy of the Educational evaluation used by my old attorney which says US master equivalent.

    As one member pointed out , there is a possibility that my original employer might have sent a letter saying Labor cert has mistakes but I have no way to confirm that . Or it could that the Officer is just trying to find any small thing to make the case deny.

    I am digging all my old docs to give it to my attorney and see what he is going to day .

    Thanks for all the support folks .
    -vinod





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  • geniousatwork
    08-26 07:56 PM
    I got red for my post :mad: ...I dint say anything anti or wrong...only did some number crunching from the poll stats.
    Looks like people dont want to hear the truth...I myself was disappointed to see such high number of people left...but I have to accept this.





    ashkam
    01-15 02:09 PM
    Sledge_hammer, sanju and hpandey appear to be the only voices of reason here. Anything bad happens to anyone in this country who happens to be an immigrant and here come the conspiracy theorists. Don't be so paranoid, people. The burglars in this country believe in equal opportunity victimization. They rob everybody equally regardless of race or color.





    Marphad
    01-13 05:54 PM
    are logic life ko nahi jaante aap?

    logiclife is a bhagwan .... he is sabka baap .. sabse bada saanp.... aaj kal chup chaap :D:D


    (translation: ramblings in hindi language ... the crawling vb has made me sick & delirious)

    I think you meant "saab" and not "saanp" ;). Or it was a deliberate mistake :D Just kidding.



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