eb_retrogession
01-09 09:30 AM
Greetings.
I want to take this opportunity to introduce you to this new effort taken up by a group of people badly hit by the immigration delays or we can say immigration black out in U.S..
http://www.immigrationvoice.org is a banner under which we are getting together to
1) Find solution to employment based greed card retrogression
2) Labor delay in the backlog centers.
All the members of this non-profit organization are facing severe problems due to these issues. We have started the awareness drive and professional strategic help (lobbying) efforts have started for the new Comprehensive immigration reform bill due on the floor of the Senate and House in Spring of-06. To make a difference and to have the new law passed in the way the current visa retrogression & Backlog center delays cane be addresssed with the new bill, I would request you to please spread this message or forward the email to as many people as possible.
Attached file contain the flyer. This flyer is to create awareness for this effort and add to the ongoing membership drive for http://www.immigrationvoice.org to find solution to Green Card Retrogression problem as well as the backlog centers. We are actively starting to work with the lawmakers to make appropriate changes in Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill.
I would urge you to please go ahead and post these flyers at Chinese/Pilipino/Indian stores/religious places or anywhere you now think individuals supporting our cause will gather. Additionally, please forward the flyer to as many family members and friends as possible and request them to do the same. This will really help us with the membership drive. If you or anybody in your family wants to volunteer please let us know at info@immigrationvoice.org we need volunteers mainly to send emails and making phone calls.
Here is how you could help towards this cause and solution to retrogression & Labor Delay problem
1) Register as a member of http://www.immigrationvoice.org. It is free.
2) Post the flyers in as many places as possible. Email the flyer to all your friends and anybody you know is on H1 or applying for GC or already applied for GC. Request your friends to do the same.
3) Please contribute generously at http://www.immigrationvoice.org and know that every penny you contribute will work for you.
4) Please continue to contribute to the discussion forum at http://www.immigrationvoice.org with your ideas, information and participation that would help everybody.
Thanks for all your help .... Happy New Year!
Please forward this mail to as many friends you can.
Volunteer @ http://www.immigrationvoice.org
Flyers attached.....
I want to take this opportunity to introduce you to this new effort taken up by a group of people badly hit by the immigration delays or we can say immigration black out in U.S..
http://www.immigrationvoice.org is a banner under which we are getting together to
1) Find solution to employment based greed card retrogression
2) Labor delay in the backlog centers.
All the members of this non-profit organization are facing severe problems due to these issues. We have started the awareness drive and professional strategic help (lobbying) efforts have started for the new Comprehensive immigration reform bill due on the floor of the Senate and House in Spring of-06. To make a difference and to have the new law passed in the way the current visa retrogression & Backlog center delays cane be addresssed with the new bill, I would request you to please spread this message or forward the email to as many people as possible.
Attached file contain the flyer. This flyer is to create awareness for this effort and add to the ongoing membership drive for http://www.immigrationvoice.org to find solution to Green Card Retrogression problem as well as the backlog centers. We are actively starting to work with the lawmakers to make appropriate changes in Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill.
I would urge you to please go ahead and post these flyers at Chinese/Pilipino/Indian stores/religious places or anywhere you now think individuals supporting our cause will gather. Additionally, please forward the flyer to as many family members and friends as possible and request them to do the same. This will really help us with the membership drive. If you or anybody in your family wants to volunteer please let us know at info@immigrationvoice.org we need volunteers mainly to send emails and making phone calls.
Here is how you could help towards this cause and solution to retrogression & Labor Delay problem
1) Register as a member of http://www.immigrationvoice.org. It is free.
2) Post the flyers in as many places as possible. Email the flyer to all your friends and anybody you know is on H1 or applying for GC or already applied for GC. Request your friends to do the same.
3) Please contribute generously at http://www.immigrationvoice.org and know that every penny you contribute will work for you.
4) Please continue to contribute to the discussion forum at http://www.immigrationvoice.org with your ideas, information and participation that would help everybody.
Thanks for all your help .... Happy New Year!
Please forward this mail to as many friends you can.
Volunteer @ http://www.immigrationvoice.org
Flyers attached.....
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Madhuri
04-13 04:30 PM
Yes, they know what they do as far as globalization is concerned.
IT and BPO outsourcing is also leading to Americanization of Indian youth and Indian youth are spending their high salaries on American products. In no time you will see American fast food chains, groceries, and many American MNCs cashing on a Americanized Indian crowd and neutralize ( and will eventually exceed the investments they make).
This is the beginning of Americanization. Most of you will not understand what I say because you are here in US for a long time and being first generation immigrants (on a limbo) keep up with your tradition. Americanization is like a slow bleed. IT and BPO is investment. Returns will come in form of MNCs and businesses and finally benefit American economy.
Just go back to India and look into the ITand BPO companies and lifestyles of people there. it will be 5 times higher than what we follow here as the Americanization is already induced.
Bottomline, do not underestimate America. They know what they do.
IT and BPO outsourcing is also leading to Americanization of Indian youth and Indian youth are spending their high salaries on American products. In no time you will see American fast food chains, groceries, and many American MNCs cashing on a Americanized Indian crowd and neutralize ( and will eventually exceed the investments they make).
This is the beginning of Americanization. Most of you will not understand what I say because you are here in US for a long time and being first generation immigrants (on a limbo) keep up with your tradition. Americanization is like a slow bleed. IT and BPO is investment. Returns will come in form of MNCs and businesses and finally benefit American economy.
Just go back to India and look into the ITand BPO companies and lifestyles of people there. it will be 5 times higher than what we follow here as the Americanization is already induced.
Bottomline, do not underestimate America. They know what they do.
webm
11-08 09:19 AM
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wrldnw4me
02-24 01:03 PM
Did my part..
Thanks for all your work.
Thanks for all your work.
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shakunbansal
11-03 02:36 PM
Dude,
I am facing same issue....need to get some money back from India....and there is no way i can get it officially without losing significant part of it. It is really illogical to send money to India for property investment just because we cannot get money back.....I am repenting doing that....
Whenever I ask my friends to do this favor to me.....all they say is they dont have money to send India (since they dont want to disclose their worth to me) or they dont want to send money to India since they know it is useless to send money at such a bad conversion rate.
If you can find some better way, let me know too.
open a nri account here in india with your dad as a second name to it in a bank like hsbc which is there both in india and usa....then you or your dad dcan deposit money in that account...then anybody can withdraw after that. ...Second your dad can gift you a certain amount by converting rs to dollars in india and getting american express travelers check and sending it to you,....
let me know what you do and if there are other ways to do that..
I am facing same issue....need to get some money back from India....and there is no way i can get it officially without losing significant part of it. It is really illogical to send money to India for property investment just because we cannot get money back.....I am repenting doing that....
Whenever I ask my friends to do this favor to me.....all they say is they dont have money to send India (since they dont want to disclose their worth to me) or they dont want to send money to India since they know it is useless to send money at such a bad conversion rate.
If you can find some better way, let me know too.
open a nri account here in india with your dad as a second name to it in a bank like hsbc which is there both in india and usa....then you or your dad dcan deposit money in that account...then anybody can withdraw after that. ...Second your dad can gift you a certain amount by converting rs to dollars in india and getting american express travelers check and sending it to you,....
let me know what you do and if there are other ways to do that..
saketkapur
01-14 12:57 PM
As per Ron Gotcher more bills are going to be introduced and then they will try to consolidate them into one. He has his response at the following link:
http://immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7013
Re: Hr 264
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This is one of three expected bills introduced in the House. The sponsor of this bill (there were no co-sponsors) is Sheila Jackson-Lee. She is a fringe player. Next Tuesday, Luis Gutierrez, the chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, plans to introduce his version of CIR. It will most likely concentrate on amnesty.
At some point in the future, we can expect a bill from Zoe Lofgren. The Lofgren bill will be the one that will have bi-partisan supporters and will be taken seriously. That will be the "real" CIR proposal in the House.
If I had to bet on it, my bet would be that if anything at all passes, it will be visa recapture, quota expansion, and H1b relief. There is a strong core of support for those measures. The weakest component of CIR is amnesty.
http://immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7013
Re: Hr 264
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This is one of three expected bills introduced in the House. The sponsor of this bill (there were no co-sponsors) is Sheila Jackson-Lee. She is a fringe player. Next Tuesday, Luis Gutierrez, the chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, plans to introduce his version of CIR. It will most likely concentrate on amnesty.
At some point in the future, we can expect a bill from Zoe Lofgren. The Lofgren bill will be the one that will have bi-partisan supporters and will be taken seriously. That will be the "real" CIR proposal in the House.
If I had to bet on it, my bet would be that if anything at all passes, it will be visa recapture, quota expansion, and H1b relief. There is a strong core of support for those measures. The weakest component of CIR is amnesty.
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r2i2009
05-13 03:26 PM
Guys
During 2000/01/02 around 300,000 Desis entered the country.
This is the reason for oversubscription........and FIFO is working out here.
EB2 will soon follow EB3. If you planning to change to EB2....you are inviting further delays.
Let us hang on to our EADs....this is equally well as GC....
During 2000/01/02 around 300,000 Desis entered the country.
This is the reason for oversubscription........and FIFO is working out here.
EB2 will soon follow EB3. If you planning to change to EB2....you are inviting further delays.
Let us hang on to our EADs....this is equally well as GC....
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darslee
07-10 12:02 PM
If Martin Luther King Jr. can use the views of Gandhi successfully, why bother what we learnt in School?
Has anyone seen the statue of Mahatma Gandhi at the MLK memorial at Atlanta as well as a whole section devoted to Gandhi in the museum.
Huh? I was trying to convey that Gandhi's philosophy of passive resistance was so awesome that it had a strong impact on even a "little" person like me, growing up in Apartheid South Africa. And frankly, nations are made up of more "little" people than heroes ;)
Has anyone seen the statue of Mahatma Gandhi at the MLK memorial at Atlanta as well as a whole section devoted to Gandhi in the museum.
Huh? I was trying to convey that Gandhi's philosophy of passive resistance was so awesome that it had a strong impact on even a "little" person like me, growing up in Apartheid South Africa. And frankly, nations are made up of more "little" people than heroes ;)
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LostInGCProcess
02-23 11:35 AM
Only reason Attenborg's Gandhi was so magnificient is ...because it was an outsiders view on the life of gandhi...a less attached view of bapu's life.
If a desi had made that movie he would be overcome with his personal view of gandhi..
the movie on Gandhi is a masterpiece and slumdog is a piece of shit.
Credits to rehman for being brilliant as usual...but deifinitely this is not his best.
Slumdog made it to oscars only because a white dude directed it...if a Benegal or Mehra had directed it..it would never have made it past the shore..
My question to all the white trash out there..why are they so fasinated/amused by the poverty in asia or developing country.
Oh poor brown man..look he jumped into a pile of shit ...
Slumdog was demeaning in its potrayal of desi's ... Boyel showed the grisly side of poverty..but he failed to mention abt the lakhpatis in Dharavi?
I would have to agree with your point of view. But don't you think it time the Indian Government (with all the criminal politicians) would take a note of this and correct the image of India by at least starting some project to alleviate the problems for poor of the poorest? Don't you thing its high time that something is done about it?
If a desi had made that movie he would be overcome with his personal view of gandhi..
the movie on Gandhi is a masterpiece and slumdog is a piece of shit.
Credits to rehman for being brilliant as usual...but deifinitely this is not his best.
Slumdog made it to oscars only because a white dude directed it...if a Benegal or Mehra had directed it..it would never have made it past the shore..
My question to all the white trash out there..why are they so fasinated/amused by the poverty in asia or developing country.
Oh poor brown man..look he jumped into a pile of shit ...
Slumdog was demeaning in its potrayal of desi's ... Boyel showed the grisly side of poverty..but he failed to mention abt the lakhpatis in Dharavi?
I would have to agree with your point of view. But don't you think it time the Indian Government (with all the criminal politicians) would take a note of this and correct the image of India by at least starting some project to alleviate the problems for poor of the poorest? Don't you thing its high time that something is done about it?
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admin
03-28 10:09 AM
Mindblowing. Do people really believe the Oct 2007 deadline? Haven't we seen many deadlines come and go? This is extrememly unfair to those stuck at BEC; don't go around spreading this impression that the BEC issue has been resolved.
If indeed the majority at IV believe that BEC is not a problem, then it would not be a stated goal of IV. Let me repeat, so long as it is listed as a goal, it is the moral responsibility of all of to support and work towards resolving the issue.
This is important. Don't just pretend to support IV and play down what matters to others. Your must support all the goals we have at IV and not pick and choose what you like.
Also please don't repeat the false logic of "labor certs will be taken care of by PERM." If that is the case why would we at IV have BEC resolution as a goal? The least you can do it not try to dilute the seriousness of the BEC issue, even if you don't care much about the problem.
anai,
Resolving the BEC problem is definitely one of IV's main goals. There is no way I will believe in DOL's claim of clearing all the back logs by Oct 2007.
IV has had a number of discussions with lawmakers and administrative officials, first to understand the issue and next to solve it. From our discussions, it has become clear that the lawmakers still view this as a temporary problem and are not willing to legislate for getting any more into this. Never the less all of them did agree that the efficiency of the BECs left a lot to be desired. So we were working a bi-partisan coalition of lawmakers who were willing to put pressure on DOL and USCIS on the need for efficiency and transparency.
All of this was before the crazy pace with which the Comprehensive Immigration Bill began to move. We do have to realize that this bill is a golden chance to have our provisions in place and we have less than 2 weeks to works on it. Frist wants either of the Immigration Bills to be passed before Apr 7th. If we do miss out on our goals in this bill and this bill gets passed, we will not be able to revisit our issues for a long time. So right now a lot of the attention is being given to it. This does not mean that BEC is forgotten. Hope you do understand.
If indeed the majority at IV believe that BEC is not a problem, then it would not be a stated goal of IV. Let me repeat, so long as it is listed as a goal, it is the moral responsibility of all of to support and work towards resolving the issue.
This is important. Don't just pretend to support IV and play down what matters to others. Your must support all the goals we have at IV and not pick and choose what you like.
Also please don't repeat the false logic of "labor certs will be taken care of by PERM." If that is the case why would we at IV have BEC resolution as a goal? The least you can do it not try to dilute the seriousness of the BEC issue, even if you don't care much about the problem.
anai,
Resolving the BEC problem is definitely one of IV's main goals. There is no way I will believe in DOL's claim of clearing all the back logs by Oct 2007.
IV has had a number of discussions with lawmakers and administrative officials, first to understand the issue and next to solve it. From our discussions, it has become clear that the lawmakers still view this as a temporary problem and are not willing to legislate for getting any more into this. Never the less all of them did agree that the efficiency of the BECs left a lot to be desired. So we were working a bi-partisan coalition of lawmakers who were willing to put pressure on DOL and USCIS on the need for efficiency and transparency.
All of this was before the crazy pace with which the Comprehensive Immigration Bill began to move. We do have to realize that this bill is a golden chance to have our provisions in place and we have less than 2 weeks to works on it. Frist wants either of the Immigration Bills to be passed before Apr 7th. If we do miss out on our goals in this bill and this bill gets passed, we will not be able to revisit our issues for a long time. So right now a lot of the attention is being given to it. This does not mean that BEC is forgotten. Hope you do understand.
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logiclife
02-01 06:05 PM
HAs anyone seen this.
How is this going to effect our efforts for lobbying
Check this out
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060201/ap_on_go_co/lobbying_ethics
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Sunil
The rule passed applies mainly to former members of congress who now work as lobbyist. The rule says that those lobbyists, who used to be members of congress(senate or house) cannot go to house floor or the house Gym.
This does not affect our efforts due to many reasons:
1. House floor and house Gym is not the exclusive place for lobbying. Lobbying can be done at a lot of places in Washington DC besides the house floor or the Gym of the house. This rule is only lip-service really. It serves one purpose: after the abramoff scandal, you will not see lobbyist of the ex-congressman variety physically present in the house floor or the house gym lifting weights with the congressmen.
2. Lobbying - the legwork and logistics - happens mostly at the staff level. The top guys only establish initial working relationship. The rest of the work happens between the staff of the lobbyist and the staff of the congress member.
3. None of the firms we are talking to are tainted by the Abramoff scandal. The ones that were tainted are already closed anyways.
4. This rule or that rule is not going to slow down the business of lobbying significantly. Its is nature of Washington DC. Its not going anywhere. These rules will only prevent congress members from accepting gifts and freebies from lobbyist. And actually that's a good thing.
How is this going to effect our efforts for lobbying
Check this out
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060201/ap_on_go_co/lobbying_ethics
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Sunil
The rule passed applies mainly to former members of congress who now work as lobbyist. The rule says that those lobbyists, who used to be members of congress(senate or house) cannot go to house floor or the house Gym.
This does not affect our efforts due to many reasons:
1. House floor and house Gym is not the exclusive place for lobbying. Lobbying can be done at a lot of places in Washington DC besides the house floor or the Gym of the house. This rule is only lip-service really. It serves one purpose: after the abramoff scandal, you will not see lobbyist of the ex-congressman variety physically present in the house floor or the house gym lifting weights with the congressmen.
2. Lobbying - the legwork and logistics - happens mostly at the staff level. The top guys only establish initial working relationship. The rest of the work happens between the staff of the lobbyist and the staff of the congress member.
3. None of the firms we are talking to are tainted by the Abramoff scandal. The ones that were tainted are already closed anyways.
4. This rule or that rule is not going to slow down the business of lobbying significantly. Its is nature of Washington DC. Its not going anywhere. These rules will only prevent congress members from accepting gifts and freebies from lobbyist. And actually that's a good thing.
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nav_kri
02-23 01:52 AM
Truly amazing. Winning not one but 2 Oscars. ARR is awesome with his calm and composure.
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Canadian_Dream
04-21 02:05 PM
Hmm, What part of the words "Good, Reliable and Comprehensive" you did not understand.
Health insurance is not an issue these days as there are several indian firms covering it for foreign travel
Health insurance is not an issue these days as there are several indian firms covering it for foreign travel
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meridiani.planum
10-20 08:51 PM
seems like people lost their interest in bulletin.. By the way I smell something becasue why its not released on Monday ?
that smell was just the older leftovers (Oct VB) being re-heated in the microwave and served again.
that smell was just the older leftovers (Oct VB) being re-heated in the microwave and served again.
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indian111
06-30 11:35 AM
AP apporved in 25 days from TSc
E-filed on May 22nd and got approval on June 27.
E-filed on May 22nd and got approval on June 27.
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gsc999
04-19 03:39 PM
Guys,
See some additional news below from Politico:
Darrell Issa attacks H-1B visa program, data projects
Darrell Issa attacks H-1B visa program, data projects - Michelle Quinn - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53381.html)
There is definitely some movement here but interesting to note that House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) comment:
"Lofgren is holding high-end workers hostage for the low-skilled, illegal immigrant."
This was after a hearing in San Jose, I believe on Monday, about reform of H1B visa issue.
See some additional news below from Politico:
Darrell Issa attacks H-1B visa program, data projects
Darrell Issa attacks H-1B visa program, data projects - Michelle Quinn - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53381.html)
There is definitely some movement here but interesting to note that House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) comment:
"Lofgren is holding high-end workers hostage for the low-skilled, illegal immigrant."
This was after a hearing in San Jose, I believe on Monday, about reform of H1B visa issue.
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rameshvaid
09-22 01:50 PM
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nixstor
10-12 01:45 PM
[QUOTE=nelsonagn]"So who ever were able to sneak in under that category, will get their GC."
Not if they are the 50,001st they won't.
-> I am totally with you on that. I am sure pmpforgc and bluekayal filed way ahead of the 50K limit.
Only 50,000 Schedule A's will be approved. Any who submitted I-485s above that number will have to be approved under another category.
-> I was refering to people who have filed in Jul of Aug of this year under Schedule A. Do you think that their 485 will be frozen as well? I dont think so. I know a PT who filed hers in Aug. I will ask her what USCIS is gonna say.
Just because someone submits an I-485 when a category is available does not mean they are guaranteed to see it through to end.
-> So what you are saying is, If a person whose EB2 PD is Jun 02 files 485 by the end of this month and lets say EB2 retrogresses to Apr 02 after 5 months from now, his/her application will be left at that point. So an Analyst will basically check if the PD is current every time they take up the file.
How ever, I doubt thats the same with Schedule A as it is a one time category. They will mark the 1st 50K apps into schedule A and give the overflow back to the applications for reg processing.
Remember that when Sched A started, those who were already in the system (in EB2 or 3) were switched to that category, if their petition was considered Schedule A.
-> Sure, lot of nurses and PT's might have jumped into Schedule A from EB3 and as you said all of those applications from 50,001 will go into EB3. I mean nurses and PT's. Who ever filed under Schedule A EB2 will go to EB2.
USCIS will just as easily switch those left to another category when the 50K are used up.
Your earlier statemement that 'once you have a receipt number your I-485 will either be approved or denied' is also misleading. Mere issuance of a receipt does not guarantee continuous processing unless until the cut-off for that category is later that your PD (and yes, even those who don't go thru LC have a PD: it's their I-140 RD). If not, your I-485 just sits.
-> My understanding of PD's being current is you can file for 485 and can get some decision sooner or later. I am not aware of the fact that 485 processing becomes stop and go as PD for that category oscillates back and forth.
That's what retrogression does: it takes I-485s already in the system and freezes them.
-> may be you are right. How ever my post wasnt intended to mislead any one. I felt that the 2 members who filed in Jul and Aug under Schedule A should be fine.
So what do you think will happen to these folks who have filed for 485 when Schedule A is removed from the VB? Does that mean that their PD's have become current? From what you are saying, all the unadjuciated 485's filed on after the cutoff date in VB (in this case 10/05 for schedule A as of now ) will not be processed and will be freezed. What will happen to the 765/131 that were filed along with the 485?
Not if they are the 50,001st they won't.
-> I am totally with you on that. I am sure pmpforgc and bluekayal filed way ahead of the 50K limit.
Only 50,000 Schedule A's will be approved. Any who submitted I-485s above that number will have to be approved under another category.
-> I was refering to people who have filed in Jul of Aug of this year under Schedule A. Do you think that their 485 will be frozen as well? I dont think so. I know a PT who filed hers in Aug. I will ask her what USCIS is gonna say.
Just because someone submits an I-485 when a category is available does not mean they are guaranteed to see it through to end.
-> So what you are saying is, If a person whose EB2 PD is Jun 02 files 485 by the end of this month and lets say EB2 retrogresses to Apr 02 after 5 months from now, his/her application will be left at that point. So an Analyst will basically check if the PD is current every time they take up the file.
How ever, I doubt thats the same with Schedule A as it is a one time category. They will mark the 1st 50K apps into schedule A and give the overflow back to the applications for reg processing.
Remember that when Sched A started, those who were already in the system (in EB2 or 3) were switched to that category, if their petition was considered Schedule A.
-> Sure, lot of nurses and PT's might have jumped into Schedule A from EB3 and as you said all of those applications from 50,001 will go into EB3. I mean nurses and PT's. Who ever filed under Schedule A EB2 will go to EB2.
USCIS will just as easily switch those left to another category when the 50K are used up.
Your earlier statemement that 'once you have a receipt number your I-485 will either be approved or denied' is also misleading. Mere issuance of a receipt does not guarantee continuous processing unless until the cut-off for that category is later that your PD (and yes, even those who don't go thru LC have a PD: it's their I-140 RD). If not, your I-485 just sits.
-> My understanding of PD's being current is you can file for 485 and can get some decision sooner or later. I am not aware of the fact that 485 processing becomes stop and go as PD for that category oscillates back and forth.
That's what retrogression does: it takes I-485s already in the system and freezes them.
-> may be you are right. How ever my post wasnt intended to mislead any one. I felt that the 2 members who filed in Jul and Aug under Schedule A should be fine.
So what do you think will happen to these folks who have filed for 485 when Schedule A is removed from the VB? Does that mean that their PD's have become current? From what you are saying, all the unadjuciated 485's filed on after the cutoff date in VB (in this case 10/05 for schedule A as of now ) will not be processed and will be freezed. What will happen to the 765/131 that were filed along with the 485?
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Jayr
08-22 02:15 PM
I like your word: "guestimate" (Guess + Estimate) i.e. tukka (hindi word)
Well, I don't think I am at the end of line of 300,000 people. There must be lots and lots of people whose priority date is after April 2004 might have filed. This includes 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007.
So I think 3 years is intelligent guess. But who knows I am just trying to make myself happy and trying to stay positive.
:)
My understanding was that once the 485 is filed, you go by RD. It doesn't matter what your PD is...
Does anyone know what the legislation is?
Well, I don't think I am at the end of line of 300,000 people. There must be lots and lots of people whose priority date is after April 2004 might have filed. This includes 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007.
So I think 3 years is intelligent guess. But who knows I am just trying to make myself happy and trying to stay positive.
:)
My understanding was that once the 485 is filed, you go by RD. It doesn't matter what your PD is...
Does anyone know what the legislation is?
PlainSpeak
04-19 12:17 PM
CHANGE - That is all that is left in my pocket
BharatPremi
10-10 08:25 PM
What do you mean "heart, mind, soul, ethics were sold"? How do you know that? Just because someone called the U.S president "his president" does not mean he/she sold anything, let alone someone's soul and ethics. That is their right to call the U.S president his or hers.
What you said is totally uncalled for. If you are so patriotic, why are you applying for a green card and going by your own words, doesn't that mean you sold your ethics, heart, mind and soul too?
Are you kidding us? I do not know what level of education you have achieved so far in your life but it looks like you are not enough educated to differentiate between the definitions of permanent residency, citizenship and perhaps working on work visa as far as legal stay in USA by outsider is concerned.
What would be the "legal" reply from US Supreme court,if you ask US supreme court that whether citizen of other country can call US president a "My president"? . And What would be the "legal" reply from Supreme court of country A,if you ask that whether citizen of country A can call US president a "his/her president"?
USA expects someone to abide by the land of the law while s/he come to US to work legally. And what is expected legally is one is not involved in "Anti USA" activity whatsoever it may be.USA legally never expects citizen of other country "to love" or "show fidelity" towards USA when s/he is still the citizen of other country.
PavanV is right in his argument, in a sense, that when some person is citizen of country A at this moment his/her fidelity naturally must be for his/her country A. This is the legally expected human behaviour in every society and country. It would have been perfectly o.k. and "legal" about rsharma's statement if he would have already been US citizen at the time when he stated what he stated.
Such ridiculous, unnatural, premature, unethical and spineless behaviour can only be shown by the people who are already morally sold.
First of all when somebody comes here in USA on work visa, s/he has come on invitation from USA base legal employer's willingness and is ethically, legally and morally obligated to provide professional class and quality of work for what s/he is hired. Nothing more or less is legally expected by USA and employment system within USA. USA and its whole society is well aware that these persons are citizen of other countries and so they never expects any kind of fidelity from them at least "legally" and at the same time they even do not grant the rights what US citizen nornmally have. Now out of that bunch many people prefer to go for permanent residency as permanent residency bring little bit stability in living and flexibility in employment and international travel. If one becomes a permanent resident of USA then also USA still only expects that person abide by the law of the land and do not involve in "anti USA" activity. It still does not expect "fidelity" towards USA in legal sense.There is no legal or social or political or any kind of pressure from USA or any governmental or non governmental institutes within USA on any particular person coming from other country to become its citizen. One can stay on permanent residency forever till death(At least based on current prevalent law) and legally work and s/he does not have to become a citizen for working legally. And I do not know about other countries but in India it is not considered "illegal" and/or "unpatriotic" to go in other country(Except Pakistan and Bangladesh) for legal work so coming to USA for legal work whether on work visa or becoming a permanent resident in USA while maintaining Indian citizenship simultaneously is not unpatriotic or illegal. Simultaneously USA's legal system allows an Indian to remain as citizen of India while residing in USA permanently for legal work.
Now if somebody decides to become a US citizen, there is nothing wrong in that. I do not see anything wrong when rsharma states that "I have decided to become US citizen in future". But if he is mature and human enough then his fidelity at this moment should be towards India (Assuming he is a citizen of India currently) as he is a citizen of India at this moment. Showing this kind of behaviour perhaps may not be a outright unpatriotic in terms of "Indianness" but it certanily signals probable but strong disloyality towards India.
And I do not think that USA citizens are that naive that they consider the people "not mingled" if citizen of other country do not call USA president a "My president" while holding the citizenship of other country.
If calling US president a "My President" by non citizens would be the barometer of "mixing" / "mingling" then USA would not be today's USA. So please do not kid USA and us .
What you said is totally uncalled for. If you are so patriotic, why are you applying for a green card and going by your own words, doesn't that mean you sold your ethics, heart, mind and soul too?
Are you kidding us? I do not know what level of education you have achieved so far in your life but it looks like you are not enough educated to differentiate between the definitions of permanent residency, citizenship and perhaps working on work visa as far as legal stay in USA by outsider is concerned.
What would be the "legal" reply from US Supreme court,if you ask US supreme court that whether citizen of other country can call US president a "My president"? . And What would be the "legal" reply from Supreme court of country A,if you ask that whether citizen of country A can call US president a "his/her president"?
USA expects someone to abide by the land of the law while s/he come to US to work legally. And what is expected legally is one is not involved in "Anti USA" activity whatsoever it may be.USA legally never expects citizen of other country "to love" or "show fidelity" towards USA when s/he is still the citizen of other country.
PavanV is right in his argument, in a sense, that when some person is citizen of country A at this moment his/her fidelity naturally must be for his/her country A. This is the legally expected human behaviour in every society and country. It would have been perfectly o.k. and "legal" about rsharma's statement if he would have already been US citizen at the time when he stated what he stated.
Such ridiculous, unnatural, premature, unethical and spineless behaviour can only be shown by the people who are already morally sold.
First of all when somebody comes here in USA on work visa, s/he has come on invitation from USA base legal employer's willingness and is ethically, legally and morally obligated to provide professional class and quality of work for what s/he is hired. Nothing more or less is legally expected by USA and employment system within USA. USA and its whole society is well aware that these persons are citizen of other countries and so they never expects any kind of fidelity from them at least "legally" and at the same time they even do not grant the rights what US citizen nornmally have. Now out of that bunch many people prefer to go for permanent residency as permanent residency bring little bit stability in living and flexibility in employment and international travel. If one becomes a permanent resident of USA then also USA still only expects that person abide by the law of the land and do not involve in "anti USA" activity. It still does not expect "fidelity" towards USA in legal sense.There is no legal or social or political or any kind of pressure from USA or any governmental or non governmental institutes within USA on any particular person coming from other country to become its citizen. One can stay on permanent residency forever till death(At least based on current prevalent law) and legally work and s/he does not have to become a citizen for working legally. And I do not know about other countries but in India it is not considered "illegal" and/or "unpatriotic" to go in other country(Except Pakistan and Bangladesh) for legal work so coming to USA for legal work whether on work visa or becoming a permanent resident in USA while maintaining Indian citizenship simultaneously is not unpatriotic or illegal. Simultaneously USA's legal system allows an Indian to remain as citizen of India while residing in USA permanently for legal work.
Now if somebody decides to become a US citizen, there is nothing wrong in that. I do not see anything wrong when rsharma states that "I have decided to become US citizen in future". But if he is mature and human enough then his fidelity at this moment should be towards India (Assuming he is a citizen of India currently) as he is a citizen of India at this moment. Showing this kind of behaviour perhaps may not be a outright unpatriotic in terms of "Indianness" but it certanily signals probable but strong disloyality towards India.
And I do not think that USA citizens are that naive that they consider the people "not mingled" if citizen of other country do not call USA president a "My president" while holding the citizenship of other country.
If calling US president a "My President" by non citizens would be the barometer of "mixing" / "mingling" then USA would not be today's USA. So please do not kid USA and us .
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